tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post3322162888228268927..comments2024-03-09T00:22:04.859-08:00Comments on Did It Really Happen?: I Saw a UFO...In the True SenseTim Heberthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04816425882305963295noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-11736155288110866392013-10-20T09:07:27.175-07:002013-10-20T09:07:27.175-07:00Hi Tim,
Obviously "lights in the sky" c...Hi Tim,<br /><br />Obviously "lights in the sky" can be many things. However, if you're really interested in determining if there are UFOs, i.e. of flying objects extraterrestrial origin, there's plenty of clear evidence, and that the occupants of same have been in contact with one man on Earth, named Billy Meier, for over 70 years.<br /><br />Such claims are controversial and, of course, quickly attacked by skeptics who assume that it all must be nonsense. One such skeptic, Stuart Robbins, bit off more than he can chew. For instance, when he recently posted a video of a quadcopter, offering it as a likely explanation for many UFO sightings, I posted a clear, daytime film clip, from 1976, of a UFO with two lights flashing that demolishes his intended dismissal.<br /><br />Or at least I thought I posted it. Robbins, who is quite intimidated by the mountainous, irrefutable evidence in the Meier case, quietly censored it. <br /><br />See my blog titled:<br /><br />Spineless Skeptic Still Can’t Handle the Truth<br />(http://theyflyblog.com/spineless-skeptic-still-cant-handle-the-truth/10/16/2013)<br /><br />And, if anyone here really is interested, I can point you to where you'll find enough solid evidence - that meets scientific AND legal standards of proof. It's all free.<br /><br />Michael Hornhttp://www.theyfly.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-63149740671347068972013-09-05T05:38:31.223-07:002013-09-05T05:38:31.223-07:00Re Tim,
I asked my friend again. IF iridium 24 sa...Re Tim,<br /><br />I asked my friend again. IF iridium 24 sat. is your object (or a similar one), you can repeat again your observation and sighting as I expected.<br />And to appreciate if it could be your object, or not, because Iridium 24 Sat. will be visible again from Escondido. You will have all informations (where to watch, when, etc.) with the following link.<br />Notice the Heavens Above new tool: when clicking on the date, you will get a "star chart" in order to help where to watch.<br /> <br />http://www.heavens-above.com/PassSummary.aspx?satid=25105&lat=33.11917&lng=-117.0856&loc=Escondido&alt=236&tz=PST<br /><br />I hope it could help (?) <br /><br />Amitiés,<br /><br />Gilles<br /><br />Gilles Fernandezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17128214022795566635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-68230435840045171962013-09-04T19:46:02.259-07:002013-09-04T19:46:02.259-07:00Tim, your video appears to be very close to what I...Tim, your video appears to be very close to what I had observed. Tim Heberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04816425882305963295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-68457790736028997482013-09-04T17:07:18.460-07:002013-09-04T17:07:18.460-07:00Back in 2010, I posted a video of what I thought w...Back in 2010, I posted a video of what I thought was a point meteor. Ian Ridpath pointed out it was probably a glint. Closer examination revealed a faint satellite was in the area at the time and probably produced the glint. Does this look familiar?<br /><br />http://home.comcast.net/~tprinty/Astronomy/pointmeteor.wmvTim Printyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06115389684481839803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-90630127314740795122013-09-04T08:14:36.827-07:002013-09-04T08:14:36.827-07:00Hi Gilles,
I thought of a possible Iridium satell...Hi Gilles,<br /><br />I thought of a possible Iridium satellite after viewing the site that Tim Printy had recommended. I only saw one brief flash of light as that is what got my attention. <br /><br />Interesting observation, last night at 2120 local time, and I had my journal with me to write it down, I observed a meteor in the North East direction between Cassiopeia and Andromeda. This was eye sight with no aid of binoculars or telescope. <br /><br />Based on further thought reflection, the meteor sighting, leads me to move more to the satellite conclusion...but what satellite is still the question. Again, there is so much space junk in orbit.<br /><br />BTW, I enjoyed your article that Rich Reynolds had posted on his site last week concerning Caravaca's "external agent" or as you proposed, "no need for an external agent."Tim Heberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04816425882305963295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-31926787498970863422013-09-04T04:59:23.352-07:002013-09-04T04:59:23.352-07:00Hello Tim,
I reported your observation to some Fr...Hello Tim,<br /><br />I reported your observation to some French friends.<br />One of them proposed this one as candidat:<br />If he have well understood your observation: flashing object/ N to S, around 50° south horizon, 28 August at 8.30 PM (local), Escondido California.<br /><br />Iridium 24 satellite (out of control):<br />Descending Orbit. Earth revolutions since launch: 82315.6<br />Flashes: Period 10 sec, dim, but with add. irreglar brighter flashes<br />Appears 20h26m42s 9.9mag az: 3.3° N horizon<br />Culmination 20h34m09s 6.2mag az: 86.2° E h:55.4°<br /> distance: 906.3km height above Earth: 764.4km elevation of Sun: -16° angular velocity: 0.46°/s<br />Disappears 20h38m23s 7.9mag az:161.9° SSE h:14.4°<br /><br />Dunno if it is this one, but well, it sounds good...<br /><br />Amitiés,<br /><br />Gilles.<br /><br /><br />Gilles Fernandezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17128214022795566635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-21181706235596058532013-09-03T23:52:23.963-07:002013-09-03T23:52:23.963-07:00Kolyma,
"So 'fast moving' meant sate...Kolyma,<br /><br />"So 'fast moving' meant satellite-like speed. The satellite glints are said to last about one second, your observation seemed to have been longer."<br /><br />I initially stated "fast moving" as a general description of movement...not really a good choice of words on my part...that's part of my little exercise. I should have stated constant rate of velocity, to the best of my judgement, but I unintentionally provided a vague description.<br /><br />Was the object moving at satellite speed? That I really don't know. I'd have to observe passing satellites to compare. Was, or is this still a "UFO"? I believe that it still fits the general criteria as I've yet to definitively identify the object. But...I've logical choices to make to conclude that it was a prosaic object of some sort.<br /><br />PS: No fireflies here in SoCal. Last ones that I observed was when I was living in New Hampshire and Virginia. Tim Heberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04816425882305963295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-30562162976895626222013-09-03T18:15:24.067-07:002013-09-03T18:15:24.067-07:00I was not aware Until Now that these glints can sh...I was not aware Until Now that these glints can show up at nearly any time of the night. That's what I meantYvan Defoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02040197157156217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-14149538800521166032013-09-03T18:04:30.397-07:002013-09-03T18:04:30.397-07:00So 'fast moving' meant satellite-like spee...So 'fast moving' meant satellite-like speed. The satellite glints are said to last about one second, your observation seemed to have been longer. <br />I guess we can rule out a firefly dans le ciel d'Escondido. <br /><br />I was not aware that these glints can show up at nearly any time of the night. Yvan Defoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02040197157156217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-22607375765979284502013-09-03T17:53:04.413-07:002013-09-03T17:53:04.413-07:00Kolyma, I perceived a general outline, but I can n...Kolyma, I perceived a general outline, but I can not describe it in any detail. Yes, its speed, or better yet, it's velocity was constant. I can say accurately, velocity, since I have a general direction of travel...southerly...possibly southeasterly in direction. It's velocity appeared constant, that is, I noticed no slowing nor acceleration. It was only briefly in my binocular's field of view and I was unable to keep it in the field of view or simply lost it in the darkness.<br /><br />Tim Printy's term of glint probably describes my brief flash observation more accurately. BTW, this is not the first time that I've had an object race by while viewing the sky, I've also observed this with my telescope though I had not observed a glint or flash of light.<br /><br />The classic UFO sighting tends to be affiliated with a point of bright light(s), changing illumination intensity, changing colors and making perceived severe maneuvers. My observation was devoid of all of the above. <br /><br />A satellite is the only logical conclusion for my brief observation...still an outside chance that it was a meteor... Tim Heberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04816425882305963295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-21737608523190696182013-09-03T15:23:04.020-07:002013-09-03T15:23:04.020-07:00Having observed the sky for many years, there are ...Having observed the sky for many years, there are such things as "glints". These are satellites that are faint and can not be seen but suddenly catch sunlight on a flat panel or surface. This causes them to flare up briefly to visibility. Iridium flares are a reasonable example of this but they usually flare up gradually and not as quickly as a "glint". <br />Back in the mid-1980s, amateur astronomers thought they had located an optical gamma ray burster in the Aries/Perseus area. It became known as the Perseus flasher or "OGRE". For a few months, it was quite the news and several articles appeared in Sky and telescope. A photograph was also taken of what was believed to be the object. Eventually, somebody did an analysis of the photographs and observation times. It was determined that satellite glints were the common cause of the observations that were reported. <br />http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1987ApJ...320..398STim Printyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06115389684481839803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-91633607840578620632013-09-03T14:19:07.430-07:002013-09-03T14:19:07.430-07:00You wrote the object was fast moving, showed a fla...You wrote the object was fast moving, showed a flash of light but was no longer visible mere seconds later. You also report outlines. It doesn't sound like a satellite observation to me.<br />I recall one time at sunset, high up in the east in a clear sky, an exceptionnaly bright satellite. It was illuminated by the just-slipped-behind-the-horizon sun. Its slow steady motion made it clear that it was a satellite and it did not disappear suddenly but rather faded away.<br />Yvan Defoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02040197157156217113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-44206635078673492362013-09-02T19:13:06.185-07:002013-09-02T19:13:06.185-07:00Tim, thanks for the web site! Checking on the si...Tim, thanks for the web site! Checking on the site, there appears to be quiet a few possible satellites that could fit my observation.<br /><br />The main purpose of the post was to demonstrate that lack of precise observational data could lead to poor conclusions. BTW, I neglected to pinpoint a precise altitude for the object. I said approximately 50 degrees, yet it may have been greater, let's say closer to 60 degrees. <br /><br />So if I have a inferential deviation of 10 degrees either way, then the possibilities of including numerous satellites increases. Thanks for recommending Heavens Above, lots of information on the site.<br /><br />Tim H. Tim Heberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04816425882305963295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-5985743174961249192013-09-02T16:27:43.513-07:002013-09-02T16:27:43.513-07:00My guess is you probably saw a satellite glint. Y...My guess is you probably saw a satellite glint. You should check Heaven's above to see what it might have been. Tim Printyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06115389684481839803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-8585542159688480372013-09-02T09:33:13.194-07:002013-09-02T09:33:13.194-07:00I attributed my brief observation to either a sate...I attributed my brief observation to either a satellite or meteor. I'm hedging more towards a satellite that was in a geosynchronous-type of orbit. There are a couple of web sites that illustrate how much space junk orbits the Earth...it's astounding.<br />Tim Heberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04816425882305963295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7811150598222033655.post-86776008922723818342013-09-01T13:41:12.432-07:002013-09-01T13:41:12.432-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Yvan Defoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02040197157156217113noreply@blogger.com